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Our third Books podcast features Joanna Bourke, professor of history at Birkbeck, University of London, in conversation with Times Higher Education¡¯s books editor, Karen Shook. They discuss James Dawes¡¯ book Evil Men, which Professor Bourke recently reviewed for É«ºÐÖ±²¥, as well as some of the challenges associated with carrying out research on highly emotive topics. We also hear about Professor Bourke¡¯s own work, including What it Means to be Human: Reflections from 1791 to the Present.